Orgate Farm in Swaledale

Orgate Farm in Swaledale

“ORGATE, a farm house in the township and parish of Marske; 1 mile NW. of Marske, 5 miles from Reeth, 7 from Richmond.”

(from GENUKI.org.uk website)

In the chapter ‘The Story’s End’ in the book ‘In the Palm of a Dale’ by David Morgan Rees, it states “Originally linked to lead mining in the area, the house at Orgate, which dates from the early eighteenth century and was probably thatched at one time, is pretty basic.”

This, however must only be speaking of the present structure since, as we’ll see, I have discovered referrals to Orgate in books and articles as far back as the 15th century!
My interest in Orgate Farm began when my family history research led me to a Marske Parish record for the baptism in 1639 of my 7th great grandfather, Simon, the son of Ralph Ward of Orgate March 8,1639. So, you can see that, with Simon’s birth record, Orgate, as a family home, already takes us back to the early 17th century! But it goes a lot further back than that… have a look!

Orgate Through the Centuries

1438
1438

Ralph Pudsay, Esq.

Ralph Pudsay, Esq.

23 July, 16 Hen. VI (1438)., Alianora widow of Thomas de Cleseby (Lord of Marske), grants seizin (legal possession of a feudal fiefdom or fee, that is to say an estate in land) to Ralph Pudsay, Esq., of Colynhall and Orgate. I understand this to mean Ralph Pudsay, Esq. was given legal possession of Colynhall (haven’t found anything about this place yet) and Orgate by Alianora. It’s not clear why.
This Ralph Pudsay/Pudsey, must be the one who later became ‘Sir’ Ralph Pudsay’, heir of the manors of Barforth (near Forcett) & the manor of Bolton by Bowland (about 15 miles west of Skipton, Yorkshire). Barforth Hall, owned by the Pudsey family from the time of Edward III until 1659, is only 16 miles northeast from Orgate.

1457
1457

William Conyers

William Conyers

On 24 Mar. 35 Hen. VI. (1457) Sir Ralph Pudsay and Henry his son release to him (William Conyers 1435-1495) and his wife (Elizabeth Cleseby) their interest in Marske. (which would include Orgate as per above 1438 entry)

1476
1476

William and Anne Conyers

William and Anne Conyers

1 March 16 Edward IV (1476) “he ( William Conyers, Esq) enfeoffs her (his second wife Anne) of Collinghall, Hermite Close & Orgate…for life.” After William dies in 1495 Ann remarries to Thomas Hardy, but her son and heir of her first husband, William, gives her Collinghall for life, but not Orgate.

1495
1495

Christopher Conyers

At the death of William Conyers, Orgate would have been left to his son and heir Christopher Conyers.

1504
1504

William Conyers

Christopher Conyers dies in 1504 and his son William Conyers, becomes the next heir of Marske Manor (which would include Orgate)

1553
1553

William Conyers

William Conyers

William Conyers, Lord of Marske, among a list of items in his will, leaves to his son and heir William Conyers, his farm called ‘Orgate’.

1558
1558

Joan Conyers

The above William dies only 4 years after his father and his only heir is his young daughter Joan Conyers. She becomes the wife of Arthur Philip of Brignall in 1559.

1559
1559

Arthur Phillip

THE PHILLIP FAMILY.
“After the death of the second William Conyers in 1558, Marske passed to Joan his only daughter and heiress who, being under age, became a ward of Queen Elizabeth. A new family now enters the scene when James Phillip, an influential member of the Royal Court, persuaded the Queen to allow his son, Arthur, to marry the Conyers’ heiress against the wishes of her family. As a result of the marriage, Arthur Phillip gained possession of the large land holdings belonging to the Conyers’ heiress, including the manor of Marske, several parcels of land in the Orgate area of the manor of Clints and several estates in the Richmond and Cleveland areas.” from British Mining #50 by Leslie Owen Tyson

1588
1588

Phillip Family

Mar. 5, 1588-9. A lease of Orgate to the Phillips, for life, from the Queen: this was claimed by Sir Timothy Hutton (probably in 1597, see below). There is a letter about this lease in the Hutton Correspondence, p. 162.

1597
1597

Timothy Hutton, Esq

Timothy Hutton, Esq

On the 7th of March, 39th Eliz., (1597) Arthur Phillip of Marske, Esq., and Francis Phillip his son and heir apparent, Talbott Bowes of Richmond, Esq., and Anth. Besson of Graie’s Inn, gent., sell the demesne of Marske for 3,000L. to Timothy Hutton, Esq. Arthur Phillip dies later the same year in October.

1603
1603

Marske Parish or Hutton Family

Mention of Orgate in the will of Anthony Addison, rector of Marske.
On March 9, 1603-4, he makes his will, nuncupatively, which was proved at Richmond in December. The schedule of his debts (owed to him) includes “Mr. Hutton, for the rent of Orgate Spring, 10s.” and “Mr. Hutton, for tythe woole of his sheepe of Marske moor, and for haye tithe of Orgate close, and for his oblacions.” Not sure if this would indicate that Orgate was owned by the Parish at this time or still by the Huttons.

1614
1614

John Layburne to Robert Willance

“The origins of the second mill to be built at Clints are obscure but evidence that one had been built comes from a sale made in 1614. John Layburne, one of the legatees under the will of John Bradley, sold his land at Orgate to Robert Willance, who had taken over the lease after his father’s death in 1602. Included in the sale was “one smelt mill” which for convenience will be called Willance’s mill.”
Quote from Mining and Smelting in the Marske Aread, Swaledale by Leslie Owen Tyson.

1625
1625

Sir Timothy Hutton

Sir Timothy (Hutton) inherited a good estate… In 1625 he had a rent-roll of above a thousand pounds a year, which was thus made up:—”Marske demesne, 180L. The tenement with Orgate, 50L. Marrick Abbey and tithes, 250L.”
So this means someone living at Orgate was paying rent to Timothy Hutton.

1635
1635

Richard Coates

Richard Coates

In the Marske parish register for 1635 is this entry: Anthony Coates baptized, son of Richard Coates of Orgate. Thus Richard Coates is likely the one who was renting Orgate from Timothy Hutton.

1639
1639

Ralph Ward de Orgate

Ralph Ward de Orgate

In the Marske parish records there is the baptism of Simon Ward my 7x great grandfather, son of “Ralph Warde de Orgate”. Ralph married Eden Coates in 1638 so it seems likely that Eden was a sister of the Richard Coates mentioned above in 1635. Did Richard move out and his sister Eden move in with her new husband Ralph Ward? Or did Ralph just move in with Eden and her family? Or was there more than one dwelling at Orgate back then?

1657
1657

Ralph Warde – Smelter

The book “A Dales Heritage” (Hartley & Ingilby) using information from an account book kept by Dr. John Bathurst covering a little over a year from August 1st 1657 states: “one of the smelters, Ralph Warde owing £3, had paid off part leaving him still owing £1 I5s.” and also “Ralphe Warde also chopped wood and the other smelter, John Taylor, built up ‘Orgait house in Clints ground which was burnt’ for £1 2s 6d.”
This Ralph Warde is my 8x great grandfather!

1659
1659

Possibly Wards or Coates

1659-1730: Here is a gap of 71 years where I have not found any information on who is occupying Orgate House. No doubt it stayed in the Ward/Coates families especially if Barbara Coates (wife of Lancelot Moore (see below) turns out to be a daughter of Anthony Coates of Orgate (see above 1635). In which case Barbara Coates could have inherited Orgate and passed it to her husband Lancelot Moore.
Ralph and Eden (Coates) Ward likely died at Orgate leaving it their son Simon, where he most likely was living when he died in 1690, but the Marske Parish records are missing for that crucial time period.
Some evidence that Simon Ward was probably living at Orgate during that time period is this:
“There was an inheritance dispute among relatives as to ownership of the mines and this resulted in a law suit which was heard in the Court of Chancery in 1682. Depositions of witnesses who were familiar with the mines testified that under the management of one of the disputants they had been very productive. “In his testimony, Simon Warde, a smelter stated that he had been a smelter at the Clints Mill for the past twenty years and that the mill was capable of smelting slag lead.”
(from a book by a Mike Gill who in turn, had made use of research carried out by L.O. Tyson and published in the journal, ‘British Mining No 50’ (1994).)

1730
1730

Lancelot Moore

Lancelot Moore

Lancelot Moore dies at Orgate, but the April 13, 1730 Marrick Parish record only states “Lancelot Moore, jager, buried.” This is interesting in the aspect of his occupation ‘jager’. According to the Oxford Dictionary of Family Names in Britain and Ireland, a jager is the “man in charge of horses carrying ore from the mine to the smelting-mill”
However, his will is what places him at Orgate prior to his death. It begins “I, Lance Moore of Orgate House…. give to my loving wife ye ould huse att marsk.” So he leaves ‘ye old house at Marske’ to his wife Barbara (Coates) Moore. I assume he is referring to Orgate House. He leaves ‘ye new house at Marske’ to his two daughters Ann Moore and Margaret Moore ‘between them’.

1738
1738

Charles Bathurst – Owner

In the preface to the Marske Parish register, the Curate wrote the following: “In the year 1738 when I first came to Marske as Curate, the Estates of Clints & Orgate then belonging Charles Bathurst, Esq. And now belonging Miles Stapleton Esq. Payd yearly at midsummer the sum of ______ and which payment continued mostly til the year 1769 when it was advanced to the sum of L5:19:2 Hay M_____ and that payment continues sometimes by a written sometimes by a verbal agreement till a new and written one took place January 1st 1789 and to continue for the space of 5 years. In this agreement is included the Great and small Tithes, all Mr. Stapleton’s estates of Clints and Orgate, also all the farms in the Lordship or Manor of Skelton lately purchased of John B_____? by the said Miles Stapleton, Esq. Except what in that agreement is excepted viz ___ Lead and Copper ore pigs, geese, hinds, __ He the said Mr. Stapleton paying or causing to be payd the yearly sum of L30 on the 29th day of September.”

1747
1747

Richard Parke

According to the Marske Parish records, on January 10th 1747, Richard, son to Richard and Dinah Parke of Orgate was baptized.

1749
1749

Richard and Dinah Parke

According to the Marske Parish records, on November 12th, 1749 Jane, daughter to Richard and Dinah Parke of Orgate was baptized.

1758
1758

John Moore

John Moore

Lancelot Moore’s son John Moore must have inherited the house from his mother Barbara (Coates) Moore because he dies at Orgate, age 59 in 1758.

1765
1765

Thomas Bell

Marske register has the following entry:
– July 12th 1765 Thomas Bell of Orgate buried (this Thomas Bell was the husband of Jane Moore, daughter of Lancelot Moore above)

1771
1771

James Haseltine

Marske register has the following entry:
October 8th 1771 John son to James & Eliz. Haseltine of Orgate baptized. A marriage is registered in Marske for this couple, James Haseltine and Elizabeth Catchasides 11 July 1770.

1772
1772

George Coates

Marske register has the following entry:
November 22, 1772 Dorothy dr to George & Emma Coates of Orgate bapt.
George’s wife Emma was the sister to Elizabeth (Catchasides) Haseltine above.

1774
1774

James Haseltine

Marske register has the following entry:
January 12th 1774 Eliza, daughter to James & Eliz. Haseltine of Orgate bapt.

1775
1775

James Haseltine

Marske register has the following entry:
February 9th 1775 – “Elizabeth, wife to James Haseltine of Orgate buried.”
Some time after the death of Elizabeth, James moved to Gilling by Richmond and in 1779 married a widow named Jane Furnish. Her maiden name was Jane Harker.